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Non-SCA people probably won't be interested in this.

While cleaning up the pile of mail that arrived during Pennsic, I bumped into a message I had sent a few weeks ago to someone who asked what I look for in candidates for the Laurel, the SCA's peerage (highest-level award) for arts and sciences. This is what I wrote (cleaned up a bit):

After the basic requirements given in Corpora, here is what I look for:
  • Superior skill in some SCA-appropriate field. I define fields broadly; research, court heraldry, period archery, and recreating period tournaments would all qualify.
  • Knowledge of what is period and what is not, in detail within that field but to some broad level in other fields. The person should have done enough work with period techniques and materials to know first-hand what the issues are. You don't have to hand-sew all the garb, but you do have to have done it enough to understand which sewing-machine tricks aren't found in nature. :-)
  • Peer-like qualities that can be summed up as "I would send a newcomer to this person for guidance without hesitation".
  • Sharing the knowledge -- teaching, writing articles, one-on-one tutilege, I don't care so long as it happens (and isn't restricted to "only for my friends" or the like). I don't care how spiffy the stuff you make is if you don't share your knowledge with the rest of us. (This is aided by activity level, but I'm perfectly happy to give a Laurel to someone who mostly doesn't leave his home group if he has some other way of getting the knowledge out there.)
  • A degree of inquisitiveness, intellectual rigor, and general approach to research that I find hard to describe. Critical thinking -- about your sources and about the conclusions you can draw from them -- is a big part of it. There is also a creativity aspect that is exemplified by projects such as the various "experimental archeology" efforts.
  • Impact -- is the society a better place because of this person's presence? Not all fields are conducive to ground-breaking work (and this is certainly not required for the Laurel), but when the possibility exists and the candidate comes through, I consider it to be highly significant. The person who opens up a new field -- credibly! -- scores major points.
  • "Tenure": while I don't have a set rule here, the candidate has to have beeen active in the SCA for several years. If a real-world expert joins the SCA and seems to acclimate within a year or two, he's still not ready for a peerage.


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Date: 2002-08-20 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluekitsune.livejournal.com
Great thread!! I love seeing conversations like this. It's too easy to perceive the Peerages as a popularity contest - it's always nice to have the facts reinforced. ;)

A question I like to ask of Pelicans, which you touch on... Are vast amounts of minor local service Pelican-worthy? For example, if someone is /always/ in the kitchen, every event, cleaning, cooking, whatever needs doing to clean up, and this is consistent for, oh, ten years, but they never hold a lofty office, are they someone you would consider as a candidate? My former Pelican had the standard of a 'Pelican sized hole' - will they leave a hole that big if they simply ceased to exist. I agree with that, but we disagreed on whether the scenario I just presented would qualify. I think it is possible to become such a fixture as clean-up crew, or gate staff, or kitchen help, or whatever, that if you ceased to exist it would be a Pel-sized hole, although certianly of a different nature than one who changes the way we play the game at a Society level. Opinions?

Drudge work = Pelican?

Date: 2002-08-20 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alienor.livejournal.com
Interesting question. My opinion follows, but bear in mind that I'm not a pelican and not a protege, though I am in fealty to a knight; it's not as a squire (confused yet?).

I tend to see service in terms of gradations of skill. It takes little skill to do much of the jobs that you are mentioning (clean-up crew, gate staff, or kitchen help). In fact, I've done some of those same jobs at my first handful of events. So (in my opinion) if you are doing jobs that new people could easily be trained to do (it takes very little training to say 'Take this broom and sweep out the cabins') then no, it's not pelican worthy.

However, if you are doing a job that requires skills (whether in an office or not), then you should be recognized. For example, the person who serves feast at every event shouldn't be a pelican. The person who takes the feast servers, organizes them, makes sure that they are serving in period manners (peers often served high table on their knees, things like that), and sets up a viable guild structure that ensures that the servers are trained (and still keeps the feast server job open to new people) should get a pelican.

I guess the bottom line is if that person wasn't there would the work get done? Certainly the sites would be cleaned, the food cut, and the feast served. The pelican is the person who improves the way it is done (or does something totally new).

Again, my opinion. I'd love to hear how other people look at this question?

Re: Drudge work = Pelican?

Date: 2002-08-20 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluekitsune.livejournal.com
Mmkay. I can see that. It makes more sense to me thatn some of the previous explainations I've seen on the topic, in any case. I'm not entirely sure I agree with it, but I understand it.

I think in general I do agree, but I think there are definite exceptions. It's a spectrum thing, as I see it, with the constant, endless little jobs on one end and the one huge act of Society-level service on the other. I don't think that someone can consistently and relentlessly perform even a simple task such as doing the dishes without providing leadership, if only by example. I don't think everyone who washes dishes should eventually get a Pelican, but there are a few incredible souls out there who do, IMO.

My Thoughts

Date: 2002-08-21 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syrrichard.livejournal.com
Three comments:

First, a person should have performed to the extent that they have stretched themselves. IMO that would not be covered by simple drudge work. The leadership principle applies. Certainly, each candidate for a peerage should be judged on their own merits, but I can see the cheif cook at several dozen events getting a Pelican. I could not see that for the water boy.

Second, I think what we are discussing is "high service". Whether it be an office or a management position, high service should be a considerstion for all peerages. Peers should be leaders not only by example but by their ability to manage.

Third, (and you can get out your rotten fruit, now) fencers, riders and archers should NOT be added to the Chivalry. It's a case of apples vs. a fruit basket of other items. They may be delicious, but they are not apples. Perhaps some form of Field Peerage, but probably not. There just doesn't seem to be the necessary support fot this.

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