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Yesterday I heard two songs (one from a psalm) from a group with the unlikely name "Ooolites" (or perhaps technically "Malcolm Dalglish and the..."). Very skilled singers (no vibrato! do you know how hard that is?!), nice harmonies, pleasant sound. They seem to have two albums. I don't know how representative these two tracks are of the albums, but I think I'm going to have to find out.

From Slashdot by way of siderea: the "why your anti-spam proposal won't work" form letter.

At last night's board meeting I had a wording quibble (a matter of precision and clarity) over a proposed bylaws change. One of the other board members suggested that I was being overly picky because I'm a technical writer. Hello? This is a matter of law. Law should be precise and clear. I happen to be in a profession that emphasizes that; this is an asset. (We have a couple lawyers on the board; I'm surprised one of them didn't speak up.) Sheesh -- amateurs. :-)

Speaking of law, I'm reading from Mishpatim tomorrow morning -- the "eye for eye, tooth for tooth" section. We are used to thinking of this as being harsh (sharia, anyone? no thanks), which is why the rabbis reinterpreted it to monetary damages. But with that interpretation, I wonder if this is actually lenient. Consider civil damages today in the US, where payments sometimes seem to be way out of proportion to actual damage, and are wildly inconsistent. And we distinguish based on who the victim is; the torah does not.

Twice within the past couple weeks I've been approached by people on the streets selling raffle tickets. Both conversations began with "would you like to buy a raffle ticket?" and "what for?"; then they diverged. One said "for Hillel Academy"; the other said "for a $5000 drawing". (The latter was from a veterans' group.) I knew intellectually that Judaism (and hence, Jewish culture) approaches charity differently from the world at large (or at least its US instantiation), but it's been a while since the difference has been that obvious. In the Jewish world (at least the parts I've seen), the cause is the important thing. In fact, the word usually translated as "charity" -- "tzedakah" -- doesn't really mean that; it's closer to "justice". I actually haven't even looked to see what the prize is for the Hillel raffle ticket I bought. In the broader culture, though, you have to sell the prize; it's assumed, I guess, that people won't just buy a ticket to support a good cause and you have to make it worth their while. Which partially explains the deluge of mailing labels, calendars, stuffed animals, umbrellas, and such that appear in my mailbox (and serve as anti-motivators).

I particularly like this take on the rainbow meme, shamelessly stolen from xiphias:


My God says "Justice, justice shall you pursue", wants people to work toward a fair and equitable world, and believes in love, honor, and respect. Sorry about yours.

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Remember that land ownership was the exception, not the rule, back then; a convert who hadn't married into a tribe would not own any land, and his "leasehold" would go along with the land --- and IIRC there's a significant chunk of Talmud dealing with this specific issue of what happens to them at the end of both the lesser (7-year) and greater (Yovel) cycles.

Tribes have assigned land, so while an individual might not have owned a particular field, if worse came to worst you could wait until the yovel and then get some land to farm and live on, no matter what "purchases" (really just a lease until yovel, as you said) had occurred. A convert is not similarly protected, but it seems odd that halacha would permit the case of permanently-landless Jews. (I mean, they didn't say that conversion is contingent upon marriage.) So when I get some free time I may go looking for what the talmud has to say about the ger in yovel. (You wouldn't happen to remember any hints like tractate, would you?)

it seems odd that halacha would permit the case of permanently-landless Jews.

It didn't disallow it, but the wording implied that it was considered an odd case (and IIRC ended up involving something like the awl-through-ear-into-doorpost business to become a permanent servant instead of being freed at the end of the 7-year cycle).

I don't remember any tractate refs, and as I'm already running a bit behind this afternoon I doubt I'll be able to dig any up before Shabbat starts; remind me afterward :)

It's ok; I wouldn't have time to chase any references before Shabbat anyway. :-) Thanks.

Feh. The index to this book doesn't include any references to the Yovel at all, although the text definitely does. It'll take some digging to find it since it wasn't covered in the part discussing tenancy.

Okay, I found the "reference" finally (it was in the preface!) but it includes no Talmudic reference. It's also not about this situation, but it may generalize. (Behold the power of dissociative memory! :) I managed to hash this both to the question of property across the Yovel and to the awl-through-ear-into-doorpost business.)

Speaking in regards to debts which must survive across a Sabbatical year:

...Hillel disagreed, and contended that a close study of the text would disclose a way out of the difficulty. Starting from the hypothesis that the Torah did not include a superfluous word, he pointed to the phrase "whatsoever is thine with thy brother thy hand shall release" (ibid. 3). [prior ref: Deut. xv. I ff. ed] At first sight this appears to be an unnecessary repetition of the previous verse: "He shall not exact it of his neighbor and brother." That, however, could not be, since there was nothing redundant in the Torah. Therefore the words, "whatsoever is thine with thy brother," must have been added to exclude a certain contingency, viz. the case where "whatsoever is thine" is not with the debtor. By such reasoning Hillel deduced that if the creditor handed to a Court of Law a signed document which made over the indebtedness to its members, it was within his right to claim the debt through the Court even after the expiration of the Sabbatical year.

(Everyman's Talmud, Abraham Cohen, ISBN 0-8052-1032-6; Introduction p. xl)

Possibly more to the point, though: rereading this thread, I see

I mean, they didn't say that conversion is contingent upon marriage.

They didn't need to; marriage and children were considered an obligation on all Jews, and for a man to choose to remain unmarried was considered a major sin. (Cf. Yebamot 62b, 63a among others.)

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