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Monica ([personal profile] cellio) wrote2004-10-06 10:52 am

holiday

I'm really glad that the Reform movement follows the Israeli calendar for the festivals. This means that tonight and tomorrow we will combine Sh'mini Atzeret and Simchat Torah, while others in the disapora will have this on two days.

Why do I care in this case? Because I just don't get Sh'mini Atzeret. I mean, it's a torah-mandated holiday so we have to keep it, but all attempts to infuse it with meaning have thus far fallen flat for me. (Yeah, yeah -- an extra day of assembly after the festival of Sukkot, because we're that special to God that he asked us to stick around. Kind of works intellectually but not emotionally or spiritually for me.) It's sort of a naked holiday (similar to the last day of Pesach in that respect) -- you have the holiday liturgy but no ritual specific to this holiday, and it's just kind of... eh.

Simchat Torah, on the other hand, is fun. It's when we complete the annual reading of the torah and immediately start again. We take the torah scrolls out and dance around with them and sing and have fun. My congregation is, I'm told, somewhat staid by comparison (I'm not sure I could really use the word "dance"), and one of these days I'll find a congregation that goes all-out just so I can see what's possible, but my congregation does a pretty good job. And tonight will be the debut of our new in-house band; I'm looking forward to hearing them.

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2004-10-06 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Shmini Atzerit is the "Eighth Bit." Simchat Torah is fun, yes, but so is Sukkot. And I see Shimi Atzerit as an excuse to stretch Sukkot out for just one more day, just one more day of fun and partying. That's all. But to me, that works.

[identity profile] peacheater77.livejournal.com 2004-10-06 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
You say that your congregation is extremely staid when it comes to the dancing and singing and having fun.

I have heard that certain Hasidic congregations are much more centered around the joy of the event and, therefore, are probably not so staid at all
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[personal profile] goljerp 2004-10-06 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, what you really need to do is get to NY or the Boston area. For the latter, the Tremont Street Shul was always great (although I haven't been there in years). In NY, you could do the tour d'Simchat Torah on the Upper West Side, starting with JTS, going down to Ansche Chesed, hopping over to Sha'are Tzedek, and finishing with a bang at BJ. Yes, that's four Conservative Egalatarian shuls in one evening. If you still want more, Carlebach goes on for ever...

Alas, we haven't been outside since '01 (they used to close off an avenue and there would be blocks of people dancing outside...) but it's still a lot of fun!

[identity profile] magid.livejournal.com 2004-10-06 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
Tremont St. still has the street closed off :-).

Monica, if you decide to come (likely next year, at this point ;-), you're invited to stay; I'm about a half mile from Tremont St.

[identity profile] ellipticcurve.livejournal.com 2004-10-06 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
>It's sort of a naked holiday

Man, Jews really do have more fun.
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2004-10-07 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I just don't get Sh'mini Atzeret.

Ah, yes -- the favorite holiday of the secular students at Brandeis. The first year I got there, I'd been there scarcely a month before we got a day off for Sh'mini Atzeret, and not one of my friends had the slightest clue *what* the heck Sh'mini Atzeret was. But for a college student, a day off from classes is cause for celebration all by itself...
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2004-10-08 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
perhaps leading you to conclude that Jews just get most Thursdays off (or whatever).

Yep. The day of the week varies, but it's normal for Brandeis to miss scads of some particular day of the week in the fall most years. They wind up declaring one or two other days to be, eg, "Brandeis Mondays", where everyone does their Monday classes on a Wednesday, to even it out a bit.

(It's a delightfully weird school -- officially secular, but very much secular-Jewish in practice, so pretty much every Jewish holiday worth noting is an official school holiday...)
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2004-10-08 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Does this also mean no Saturday exams

Broadly speaking, Brandeis doesn't do weekends, IIRC. I don't remember having to do anything academic either Saturday or Sunday.

It's gotta be pretty unusual

It's an unusual school, possibly even unique in the US. It was specifically founded to have a Jewish character without being explicitly religious. *Very* much a product of its day (around 1950)...

interesting...

[identity profile] chaos-wrangler.livejournal.com 2004-10-16 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
A(n Orthodox convert) friend of mine was saying on the shabbat right after Simchat Torah that while in general she'd be happy to do away with the second day of Yom Tov (and thus the 3-day sequences of Yom Tov, Yom Tov, Shabbat), she wouldn't want to combine Shmini Atzeret & Simchat Torah 'cause all the "extra" things specific to each day would add together to be too much: Shmini Atzeret has Hallel, the prayer for rain, and Yizkor, Simchat Torah has Hallel*, Hakafot, and all the additional Aliyot so every adult male can have one, and if that day fell on Shabbat then there would be megilat Kohelet as well...

*granted we'd only do Hallel once if both days were combined