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[livejournal.com profile] nsingman asked for a rant or rave (he didn't specify) about bras. Ok, I can do that. :-)

I don't know when bras -- as opposed to corsets -- were invented, but boy, I'd sure like to thank the person responsible! Corsets might be ok at doing the job (this is based on observation, not direct experience), but they look pretty uncomfortable, and just letting 'em hang loose would be horrible for someone my size. I tried that at Pennsic once (that being an environment where it wouldn't raise eyebrows), and I didn't get through one day. Swing swing swing whap whap whap bounce bounce bounce -- how does one manage to get through the day like that?! So I am delighted that a straightforward solution exists for under $10 per.

Which isn't to say that there aren't bad bras out there -- there sure are. Ones that pinch, or don't fasten tightly, or have straps that are too long for short people like me, or that itch, or whatever. The worst ones are the ones that try to be sexy but end up just being decorative. That might be fine for the AA-cups out there, but not for everyone. I believe it is possible to make something that is both functional and attractive, but forced to choose I'll go with function almost every time.

I have no problem with people who find bras restrictive and would rather go without. If that's what makes you happy -- or if you're small enough to be free of this particular burden -- then go for it! I, meanwhile, will revel in the joy of bodily protrusions that stay approximately where I put them until I'm ready to do something else with them. I didn't say bouncing is universally bad, after all -- I just want to control when it happens. :-)

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Date: 2005-02-01 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nsingman.livejournal.com
My beauteous and oft-praised [livejournal.com profile] jungle_goddess, who isn't very busty, still complains about the discomfort from bouncing if she's out and about braless. I can understand that, though I happen to prefer the braless look on women. Go figure. :-)

My understanding is that there are a fair number of attractive, functional and comfortable bras, but two main problems stand in the way of most women enjoying them. One is that so many women apparently wear the wrong size, and the other is that those bras can be quite costly.

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Date: 2005-02-02 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagonell.livejournal.com
"I assume, though I don't believe you've stated, that this obsession is limited to those of the human female variety. :-)"

Naw, if he's anywhere near my age, he's drooled over green Orion slave girls, Betazed counselors, 7 of 9, Vulcan sub-commanders ... :D

Which brings me to another rant... Why is it that all females throughout the entire galaxy have exactly two breasts??? Vulcans, Orions, Betazed, Klingons, everybody.

This isn't even an Earth standard. Cows have 4, pigs have 8. Why is it that Hollywood is willing to spend several hundred dollars for head prosthetics for convincing looking aliens, but won't put fifty cents worth of foam rubber under a tunic??? Has it been proved that sentience requires exactly two nipples???

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Date: 2005-02-02 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ichur72.livejournal.com
What about Total Recall? I haven't seen it personally, but I've heard one particular character mentioned often by a number of men ...

Total Recall

Date: 2005-02-02 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagonell.livejournal.com
http://www.themakeupgallery.info/weird/breasts/recall.htm

Sometimes my ability to find nearly anything online impresses even myself! :D I haven't made it a link because it's probably not kosher to put not-worksafe links on somebody else's LJ. :D

I've also received private e-mails stating that there's a "Triple Breasted Whore of Erotica Six" in the Hitchhiker novels, Tellarite females (so far unseen) from Star Trek have eight, and in the short story collection "Earthman's Burden" the Hoka have four (and look like teddy bears)

Okay, so I'm toning down the rant to a grumble. But, I would still like to see an SF TV series where one of the regular characters is a four breasted female. No nude shots, just a little foam under the tunic.

Re: Total Recall

Date: 2005-02-02 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagonell.livejournal.com
Okay. So apparently LJ will automatically make it a link. Sorry about that! WARNING: NOT WORK SAFE!!!

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Date: 2005-02-02 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nsingman.livejournal.com
I don't know your age (I'm 44), but you're absolutely correct (except about the drool part; I've developed a bit of self-control). :-)

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Date: 2005-02-03 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagonell.livejournal.com
I checked your profile. We're from the same generation, I was born in 1958. BTW, as long as we've brought up men our age and green Orion slave-girls,...

In the episode(s) "Menagerie", Vina isn't really an Orion slave-girl, the Talosians just give Captain Pike the fantasy that she is. Which means the only real Orion slave-girl that we saw in TOS was in the episode "Whom Gods Destroy". The character of Marta was played by Yvonne Craig, better known to men our age as ... Bat-girl! :D Two fantasy women in one! :D :D

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Date: 2005-02-04 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nsingman.livejournal.com
True, though if memory serves, one of Marta's lines (as she tried to stab Kirk) was something like "He is my lover, and I must kill him." That would dampen my ardor a bit. :-)

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Date: 2005-02-02 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nsingman.livejournal.com
Close, as the discussion below alludes. I'm obsessed with humanoid female breasts. :-)

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Date: 2005-02-07 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aliza250.livejournal.com
Many women wear a too-small cup with a too-large band making up the difference, because that's the best fit they can get with the reasonably-priced bras (by which I mean under $40) that department stores stock.

Plus-size stores carry larger sizes, but the bands don't start until 38 or 40. I'm a 34 J.

Buying a 40 and shortening the band isn't really an option, because taking in the sides would lead to the straps getting pulled off the sides of my shoulders, and there generally isn't a good place to take in the middle.

A couple of years ago I spent close to $100 on a high-quality bra. It fit wonderfully the first day, but on the second day I noticed that some of the stiffening felt had crumpled, and it never fit right again.

I found some 34F bras a while ago, and they fit reasonably well as long as I can ignore the end of the underwire rubbing into my underarm. (I usually manage to switch bras before it starts to draw blood. Usually.) $75 wasted for two bras that I can hardly stand to wear.

Right now I'm wearing a sports bra that gives me a floppy uniboob, which is even less attractive than going braless, but I'm trying to let the underwire welts heal up.

Most big-breasted women I know HATE their bras.

(And yes, I've heard about Decent Exposures for years, but their bras are neither adjustable nor sized in the over-the-shoulder measurement, nor do they offer underwires. They look more like "leisure bras" than something that could both support me and look reasonable under a thin t-shirt or dress blouse.)

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