do those yahoos know how to run a mailing list?

[cellio]

I could grow to really dislike Yahoo for mailing lists. I went to their site tonight to investigate a problem someone reported with a list I'm on, and I eventually noticed some text that said, approximately, "by the way, we've suspended your mail because you're bouncing". Interesting -- I've seen no evidence of bouncing, like an absence of general mail (and I even checked my mirror!), but now that you mention it, it has been a couple days since I received mail from a Yahoo mailing list. How odd.

So I clicked on the "fix the problem and then click here" link, received the message they sent, and entered the magic code to get reinstated. But I shouldn't have been suspended in the first place. And this is the second time this has happened to me (the first a year or so ago).

Yahoo seems to have this model that you do everything though their web site so of course you'll notice a problem like this right away. Um, actually, I do as little as possible through their web site; I find it annoying in many ways. And a mailing list should not require web access anyway.

They claimed they had received some bounces during the time when I was definitely receiving mail from them. If they'd, y'know, tried sending me mail saying "hey, sometimes you're bouncing", I would have looked into this sooner. (Yes, it's possible that such mail would bounce, but obviously some of their mail was getting through.) I run mailing lists; I do glance at bounce messages I receive.

I used to be indifferent to Yahoo. Can't say that any more. :-)

Meanwhile, if anyone reading this has received bounce messages when trying to email me, I'd sure like to know the details.

Comments

[geekosaur]

I get bounced-mail warnings/probes from several mailing lists I'm on periodically. Near as I can tell, what's happening is the lists are getting bounces due to spam pretending to be from my address, and aren't smart enough to check that the header is even remotely sane; they just trust the bounces.

[geekosaur]

Hm, more precisely, not claiming to be from me but hoping to bounce "back" to me and thereby sneak past my spam filters....

[cellio]

Gak. I had assumed -- perhaps incorrectly, it now appears -- that when they got a bounce message they at least checked to see that it was a message that freaking came from them in the first place!

[geekosaur]

Nope; some mailing list software is not so swift. One would think yahoo would get it right, but I figure they're well-named. :)

[spiritdancer]

Heh. Imagine my surprise when I went to their website for something totally unrelated and noticed they were showing my main address as "bouncing" and needing to be reactivated.

Note that the delivery of mail from the lists I'm on never stopped.

I have to wonder if something screwy has gone on over there in the last week or so ::sigh::.

_M_