another chat-with-your-friends meme

[cellio]

I saw this in several people's journals and was curious, so now it's here, in slightly modified form.

If you comment, and I can...

1. I'll respond with something I like about you.
2. I'll name something we should do together.
3. I'll say something that only makes sense to you and me.
4. I'll tell you my first/clearest memory of you.
5. I'll leave you a quote that is somehow appropriate to you.
6. I'll ask you something that I've always wondered about you, if I have such a thought.

If I do this for you, please post this in your journal so you can do the same for other people.

Comments

[chaos-wrangler.livejournal.com]

What I wrote was a corruption/adaptation (and I can't swear I got the grammar right), so I figured it worked better as cryptic comment than quote.

*goes back & re-reads* Oops. The original is so familiar that I "read" that instead of what you actually wrote (it probably "helps" that I'm dyslexic so I don't always read what's actually written even with unfamiliar stuff).

I think you've got the main grammar right, although my memory & a quick poke at a couple of dictionaries suggest that "lehibatel" should be "lehitbatel" - the sense is reflexive (self-nullification) rather than causative (nullifying something else).

This is exactly the feeling I've gotten when I've tried to do things in the Orthodox community. Thanks for your comments about how you deal with it!

I don't know if it's an Orthodox/women thing or what - a lot of the things I see aimed at non-Orthodox and/or non-observant Jews have the same problem, and I think it may be a general sense of "these people aren't/can't be educated so we have to simplify things for them and add pretty colors and..." sort of like you might do for children. Things seem to be improving (or have improved), at least in some communities, in terms of what's available for both women and non-Orthodox/non-observant, but this is in New York where there are however many overlapping Jewish sub-communities and there's a large feminist population and a large BT/convert population, etc. I've been told the latter is one of the main reasons commercially prepared kosher food and kosher-for-pesach food has improved over the past couple of decades - people who know how food "ought" to taste help start demand for it - and at least some feminists/BTs/converts bring a similar attitude to learning.