I thought this was a joke, but I just looked at the Pennsic site and there it is. I suppose that explains the large number of messages in the moderation queue for the kingdom mailing list. :-)
It's to accommodate teachers and students whose classes are starting earlier and earlier every year. Some of them have had to leave Pennsic in the middle of the main week, and some couldn't go at all. Alicia and Michelina are just two of the people I know for whom this has been a problem.
The large number of messages are the predictable responses from people who a) think this will be the end of Pennsic, b)think this will be the end of Pennsic for them, c) think this will be the end of Pennsic for the merchants, d) think this is the greatest idea since sliced bread.
I'm surprised that there wasn't some open discussion of the issue before the seneschals made a decision. (I thought most SCAdian administrators knew better.) The actual change shouldn't have a negative affect on most people (I don't care one way or the other, myself), but I'm guessing they generated some unneeded animosity by imposing a decision without at least the appearance of consensus. What you do is important, but how you do it can be even more important.
(Mind, I haven't read that accumulation of email yet, so maybe the announcement explains this better. Maybe there was broader discussion and I missed it. But it wasn't, for example, on the agenda for the most recent AEthelmearc curia, nor have I seen calls for comment.)
No, there was *NO* commenting previous to this. It was presented to us as a fait accompli. Nice of them to make a decision that involves 18,000 people (10,000 scadians, 8,000 townsfolk) without bothering to consult any of them. -- Dagonell
Actually, there was a rumor going around at War Practice about it, with the authenticity of Fast Eddie's name attached to it.
There were two different announcements to the AE list about it, both forwarded from other lists. One had somewhat more information than the other and seemed to indicate that it had been discussed extensively by the Pennsic Committee over the course of several months, as well as with the Crowns and Seneschals of a large number of Kingdoms. But no, it was not disseminated to the populace until it was a done deal.
OTOH, when you come right down to it, if the Coopers want it and the Seneschals, Crowns and Autocrats support it, then what the rest of us think it really somewhat irrelevant.
Yaas. I think the decision they came to was quite reasonable, but I dearly wish they had at least had least *asked* people for input.
I pointed this out in a slightly grumpy note in my own LJ, and got largely jumped upon for it. The most interesting comment was from kfitzwarin, who pointed out that while the Board has largely learned the value of input through painful lessons, much of the rest of the SCA bureaucracy hasn't taken that particular educational pounding...
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Date: 2006-06-11 09:43 pm (UTC)-- Dagonell
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Date: 2006-06-11 09:58 pm (UTC)I thought this was a joke, but I just looked at the Pennsic site and there it is. I suppose that explains the large number of messages in the moderation queue for the kingdom mailing list. :-)
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Date: 2006-06-11 10:23 pm (UTC)The large number of messages are the predictable responses from people who a) think this will be the end of Pennsic, b)think this will be the end of Pennsic for them, c) think this will be the end of Pennsic for the merchants, d) think this is the greatest idea since sliced bread.
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Date: 2006-06-12 12:11 am (UTC)I'm surprised that there wasn't some open discussion of the issue before the seneschals made a decision. (I thought most SCAdian administrators knew better.) The actual change shouldn't have a negative affect on most people (I don't care one way or the other, myself), but I'm guessing they generated some unneeded animosity by imposing a decision without at least the appearance of consensus. What you do is important, but how you do it can be even more important.
(Mind, I haven't read that accumulation of email yet, so maybe the announcement explains this better. Maybe there was broader discussion and I missed it. But it wasn't, for example, on the agenda for the most recent AEthelmearc curia, nor have I seen calls for comment.)
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Date: 2006-06-12 01:13 am (UTC)-- Dagonell
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Date: 2006-06-12 01:24 am (UTC)There were two different announcements to the AE list about it, both forwarded from other lists. One had somewhat more information than the other and seemed to indicate that it had been discussed extensively by the Pennsic Committee over the course of several months, as well as with the Crowns and Seneschals of a large number of Kingdoms. But no, it was not disseminated to the populace until it was a done deal.
OTOH, when you come right down to it, if the Coopers want it and the Seneschals, Crowns and Autocrats support it, then what the rest of us think it really somewhat irrelevant.
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Date: 2006-06-13 08:59 pm (UTC)I pointed this out in a slightly grumpy note in my own LJ, and got largely jumped upon for it. The most interesting comment was from
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Date: 2006-06-22 12:39 am (UTC)