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Monica ([personal profile] cellio) wrote2006-08-28 10:12 pm
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leading a publicly-accessible life

I was recently involved in a conversation about posting to journals (or other internet fora) and how it's important to be careful out there. I don't know that I'll say anything here that's new to most of you, but I'm going to ramble anyway.

Posts to mailing lists, newsgroups (remember those?), journals, blogs, and so on are, potentially, forever. I feel bad for the high-school and college students (and sometimes beyond) who haven't learned that yet and are going to be appalled by what they find in archives in a decade. But, of course, the same thing could happen to me too -- I'm older and I hope somewhat wiser, but that doesn't mean I'll never make a mistake. Being mindful of it, though, is a big first step.

Some people use pseudonyms or try to be anonymous on the net. When I created this journal I very briefly considered using a pseudonym, but I decided to use my real name. One reason is that part of the point of a public journal is for friends to be able to identify me. That doesn't mean I advertise this journal widely, and I try to keep it out of search engines (which doesn't work so well with RSS feeds, so that's probably doomed now). But when people I know stumble across it, I'd usually like them to know it's me. And I don't want to keep a friends-locked journal, though I do have locked entries, because I want to be able to meet new people through this medium.

There's another reason I'm not anonymous. I do not want to be lulled into the false sense of complacency that might come with a pseudonym. It could lead me to believe that I really am anonymous. A pseudonym lets you be casually anonymous -- your identity is not apparent to the passerby -- but anyone who really wants to figure out who you are can probably do so, at least if you post as much and as deeply as I do. Better for me to admit it up front and be careful in what and how I post.

I mostly don't use outsiders' names in my posts. Sure, given my name, my home page, Google, and a few minutes, you can learn the names of my employer, my synagogue, my rabbi, and probably my parents. These aren't secrets, but in posts I tend to refer to "my synagogue" or "my employer" and so on. (Same with my tags.) If my journal entries are Google fooder, at least that way searches on those entities won't tend to lead here. Someone trying to check up on me via Google will get here; someone trying to check up on my boss won't.

I sometimes face a balancing act between wanting to give credit where it's due and wanting to protect others' identities. If I have a private conversation with someone, that person hasn't generally given me permission to broadcast about it. On the other hand, if he said something nifty, I don't want to take the credit for that thought myself. That's why I sometimes write that I heard this interesting idea and here's my reaction to it. This journal is about me, my reactions, my opinions -- and only secondarily about other people's work that inspires me. I think I'm being fair to the other people in my life. I hope they would agree.

An interesting question (thought experiment) is how I would have to change the way I write on the net if I were in a position that was more publicly-accountable -- school teacher, politician, rabbi, etc.

[identity profile] cahwyguy.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I was actually thinking of a similar post. I really don't write stuff that wouldn't be public. Vacation trips... made public after the fact. Trash talk about work... I wouldn't do it. Theatre reviews... fair game for the public.

One of the things I like about LJ, much more than MySpace, is the access control via Friendslists. Those don't get shared via RSS.

[identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I maintain a pseudonym to avoid the Stupids. Sure, you can track me down with concerted effort; it's easy. It's easy to poison my food, too, but that doesn't mean I should stop washing my hands. Keeping a very thin persona online turns away casual inquiry, which can be useful, and makes aggregating my click trail slightly more cumbersome, enough so that low-grade idiots can't do it easily.

Of course in a few years when there's Google Person or somesuch, that will be ripped away...

[identity profile] tsjafo.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
The thing to remember is that anything you say (on the internet) can and will (eventually) be held against you in a court of law.
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[personal profile] siderea 2006-08-29 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
That's disturbing for the completely other security issue of weak authentication on, well, the entire Internet. It's pretty trivial to frame someone on the internet. If I set up an email account claiming to be you... or find a way to use a SQL insertion to write to your web-whatever account... or sit down at a computer you were just using and neglected to log out of... or packet sniff your password... or manage a XSS attack on a website you have an account on... or get an account through the same ISP as you and telnet to an SMTP server and fake an email from you... or simply subtlely edit an email you did write and print it out and carry it into a court and insist perjurously that it was what you originally sent...

One hopes the court will be hip to these possibilities. But it's not a way I'd bet. That gives me the willies.

[identity profile] tsjafo.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
"One hopes the court will be hip to these possibilities. But it's not a way I'd bet. That gives me the willies."

Yeah, I doubt a government persecutor would bother to understand anything that disputed the "fact" as he chose to display them. Look at how successful the RIAA has been presenting "facts" in their lawsuits against private citizens over file sharing. The few cases they've lost have mainly been because they've been so outrageous (like suing 80 year old grandmother's who do not own a computer) that even ordinary citizens can understand the insanity. If you picked the first 50 people you met off the street you'd be hard pressed to find 12 who understood much more than how to address an email. You'd find most of the rest of 'em curious as to where to put the stamp.
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[personal profile] sethg 2006-08-29 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a murder mystery begging to be written here....

[identity profile] ellipticcurve.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
IANAL, but I doubt it. They'd have to prove it was you, which would be extremely difficult. How will the judge be able to distinguish a genuine post by me from a post by an impostor from a fake post written by the (ethically-challenged) other side?

But yeah. One of the panels at WorldCon said something like: "Privacy turned out to be a passing fad of a few centuries' duration. Now, like in the Middle Ages and before, we'll get privacy by being uninteresting."

[identity profile] ealdthryth.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with what you are saying. I had no idea that when I posted to usenet groups in the 80's, those messages would end up being searchable throughout the world! Thank goodness I didn't say anything embarrassing!

I use an initial when talking about coworkers publicly so as to maintain their privacy. I am always aware of what I am posting publically. It just makes sense.

[identity profile] mabfan.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've thought about these questions a lot. Especially when I see how much of their private lives people put up on the Internet, and how easy it is to track them down.

Your last question resonates, but for other reasons. For a short time, I was a teacher while I was blogging and reading other people's posts. Now, I never blogged about work, but former students of mine who had graduated from a different school blogged about their lives, and there's a lot they said that I would have been legally bound to report. When adults and children are all on the Internet together, the rules are going to have to adapt.

[identity profile] ichur72.livejournal.com 2006-08-29 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
>> An interesting question (thought experiment) is how I would have to change the way I write on the net if I were in a position that was more publicly-accountable -- school teacher, politician, rabbi, etc.

Do you ever read the Renegade Rebbetzin blog? She writes occasionally about the need to be discreet about her husband's congregation. I recommend it, in any case -- it's a highly entertaining blog.