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Rabbah b. Bar Chanah once lost a bill of divorce in the beit midrash. When it was found, he said to the finders: there is a distinguishing mark that shows it is mine, and if you don't accept that, I would know my document by sight. The document was returned to him. The g'mara teaches that a distinguishing mark is sufficient identification of a lost object under biblical law, while recognizing one's property on sight is acceptable proof only for a torah scholar, whose word can be trusted. For this reason, Rabbah did not know which reason applied when his document was returned. (19a)

(Torah scholars get special privilege? I wonder how they reconcile that with the torah's various instructions to treat people equally regardless of circumstances.)

This story is tangential to a larger discussion of lost documents, but it does make me wonder: doesn't a divorce document contain the names of the spouses and issuers? Wouldn't that be a de-facto distinguishing mark?

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Date: 2009-05-14 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starmalachite.livejournal.com
Tractate Gittin frequently assumes that in one city there are two men named Yosef ben Shimon (or anything else presumably) who have wives with the same names.

A foolish question from a ganze shiksa, but is it perhaps more likely that at this (unspecified) time period, few if any people other than rabbis or torah scholars could *read* the (names on the) document?

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Date: 2009-05-14 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
Your icon is the most beautiful nonhuman thing I've seen today. Wow.

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Date: 2009-05-14 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starmalachite.livejournal.com
Thanks, but I can't take credit. It's by [profile] lougheed.

BTW, we know so many people in common we've almost certainly met in RL. Will you be at Balticon?

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Date: 2009-05-16 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
Alas, I won't be at Balticon this year. One of these years, I hope.

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