a Nobel? really?
Oct. 9th, 2009 05:24 pmI'm neither an Obama fan nor an Obama detractor -- not an extremist on either side. From some things I've heard today, it seems important to state that.
I'm mystified by his receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize. It's possible that he could earn that someday, but now? He'd been in office for ten days when nominations closed, and since then he really hasn't done anything on the peace front yet. I don't understand what's going on in the heads of the folks on the Nobel committee.
Al Gore's prize doesn't seem to have anything to do with peace either, so this isn't the first time they've done something to prompt "WTF?"s. Have they changed the charter of the Peace Prize? It would be sad if it became meaningless.
I'm mystified by his receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize. It's possible that he could earn that someday, but now? He'd been in office for ten days when nominations closed, and since then he really hasn't done anything on the peace front yet. I don't understand what's going on in the heads of the folks on the Nobel committee.
Al Gore's prize doesn't seem to have anything to do with peace either, so this isn't the first time they've done something to prompt "WTF?"s. Have they changed the charter of the Peace Prize? It would be sad if it became meaningless.
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Date: 2009-10-09 09:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-09 10:04 pm (UTC)S
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Date: 2009-10-09 10:12 pm (UTC)Nominations closed back in February, but the vote wasn't until October.
and since then he really hasn't done anything on the peace front yet.
There has been a long, intelligent discussion about this on Metafilter (http://www.metafilter.com/85692/Obama-wins-Nobel-Prize-Peace-2009) today. Thorbjoern Jagland, the chairman of the Peace Prize committee has been quoted (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/10/world/10nobel.html?_r=1&ref=us) in a number of places today with specific references to Obama's stand on the Nuclear Arsenal -- in particular, his statement that if the US is going to tell other nations they shouldn't have nuclear weapons then we shouldn't have them either (I believe this was in the Cairo speech, but feel free to fact check me on that).
Which is not to say that I don't also think its a weird choice, but I do believe they had very specific reasons (aside from the whole "he brings us hope" thing) in voting as they did.
Al Gore's prize doesn't seem to have anything to do with peace either
I tend to think that the after-effects of Global Climate change -- in particular, drought and the effect of weather on already marginal food supplies in certain parts of the world -- will do more than any political viewpoint to cause war, suffering, and strife. Fighting for food is the most basic of instincts, and if Global Climate change accelerates I think we'll see more and more conflicts based around the struggle to gain control of scarce resources. But, of course, I'm not on the committee.
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Date: 2009-10-09 10:25 pm (UTC)But even under that broader reading, Obama's award still makes no sense.
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Date: 2009-10-09 10:40 pm (UTC)Blame it on Norway's Government. Really. They choose the people who decide who is going to get the prize.
The Nobel Peace Prize has always been an attempt to influence policy. This is just a bit more brazen than some.
I think his kids say it best, though.
"After I received the news, Malia walked in and said, 'Daddy, you won the Nobel Peace Prize, and it is Bo's birthday,' " referring to the First Mutt. "And then Sasha added, 'Plus we have a three-day weekend coming up,' " in reference to Columbus Day. "So it's good to have kids to keep things in perspective." Source here. (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1929447,00.html)
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Date: 2009-10-10 12:29 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-10 02:38 pm (UTC)Barack Obama
Al Gore
Yassir Arafat
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Date: 2009-10-11 02:29 am (UTC)In any event, considering the nature of so many past recipients, I long ago stopped considering the Nobel Peace Prize to be worth anything.
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Date: 2009-10-12 04:39 pm (UTC)