Baldur and the vet

[cellio]

Baldur is a cranky patient, so when he spent yesterday at the vet's for an ultrasound and chest X-ray (looking for cause of weight loss) it came as no surprise that they reported a lot of growling and hissing. The folks doing the ultrasound suggested a blood test that requires taking blood before and after eating, so they called to see if I'd authorize that. We also had roughly the following conversation:

Them: Do you think he would eat if --
Me: Yes.
Them: He seems awfully upset.
Me: Don't put any body parts you care about between him and the food.
Them: Does he have any food preferences?
Me: Already dead is best; he's not a mighty hunter.

When I picked him up they confirmed that they had slid a bowl of canned food into his kennel, covered the kennel (to try to calm him down; didn't know that wasn't just a bird thing), and immediately heard much slurping and chomping. That's my little vacuum cleaner!

Baldur has been losing roughly 2 ounces per week since early November despite starting then to treat him for hyperthyroidism (and despite the fact that he has all the food he wants), so my vet and I are concerned. We did assorted blood tests that were mostly normal -- T4 still good, WBC fine, PTH low, calcium tending high over the last year or so, ionized calcium high, ALT a little high). She recommended a tumor hunt and also, because he has a heart murmur, a look at the heart.

We've spoken briefly but she didn't yet have the report, so we'll talk more on Monday. The X-ray was fine, she said, and the ultrasound mostly fine (no tumors). She reported that his liver is bigger than it should be and "speckled", whatever that means. Also his bile ducts are a little dilated -- nothing like what Erik had, but not completely normal. I asked what this means and she said she's not sure but her working hypothesis is cholangiohepatitis -- what his brother has. (What's wrong; wasn't catching the hyperthyroidism wave enough? :-) )

When I picked him up they gave me a copy of the report, which says: "Assessment: Chronic hepatic disease (cholangitis/cholangiohepatitis, other) is suspected based upon the sonographic appearance of the liver, long term chronic low grade ALT elevation and chronicity of weight loss. Other causes of liver disease (lymphoma, mast cell tumor, hepatic lipidosis) have not been excluded but the degree of chronicity would be unusual. A cause for the hypercalcemia was not identified. Differential diagnoses include idiopathic hypercalcemia (likely) and occult neoplasia."

I am glad I live in the Google age, because otherwise I wouldn't have known what some of that meant. "Occult neoplasia" is med-speak for "hidden tumor", just to save you the search.

So there isn't a big obvious cause yet, which is both good and bad (depending entirely on whether big obvious causes would have been fixable). But it's very weird for the "big" cat to be under 11 pounds, so if it is cholangiohepatitis I hope treating it fixes that.

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[kyleri]

Them: Do you think he would eat if --
Me: Yes.

*cackles*

[indigodove.livejournal.com]

He's under 11 pounds now? Yikes. I'd missed that. Poor Baldur -- I hope they can pinpoint and fix what is wrong.

*hugs*

[cellio]

10lb 14oz, which might not sound like a cause for concern in general, but his top weight was 18lbs (granted overweight at that point). He's not especially underweight yet, but this is definitely a change and we don't know why yet.

[ariannawyn.livejournal.com]

Me: Already dead is best; he's not a mighty hunter.

That's when I lost it. :-)

Hope they figure it out and he gets better. He and Erik must be quite old by now, hmmm.

[cellio]

They turn 17 tomorrow.

[steven.livejournal.com]

Hoping he gets better soon.

Your dialogue with the vet is awesome.

[grouchyoldcoot.livejournal.com]

I loved that! But- is cholangiohepatitis contagious? It's not ubiquitous like thyroid disease, so I'm surprised they both have it.

[cellio]

Not contagious, but possibly genetic (need to ask the vet). Mom-cat (who was still alive in October, the last time I talked with Judith) hasn't had these problems, but we don't know anything about dad-cat.

[tsjafo.livejournal.com]

I hope he gets better soon.

[mrpeck.livejournal.com]

That was a great phone conversation. I hope his condition can be figured out and treated soon.

[katybeth]

I hope they can figure it out quickly and treat him. That's a lot of weight to lose with no explanation.

I'm not surprised that covering the kennel worked -- my Narshie was quite the "out of sight, out of mind" kind of girl. She sometimes hid her head under a towel at the vet's to make things go away. Then again, she was NOT like your Baldur in the eating department. I'm not sure she ever ate food while at a vet.

[cellio]

I was sorry to hear about Narshie.

I learned more about what happened at the vet's today. Apparently the first time they put a bowl of food in he pushed it right back out with some force, growling all the while. They cleaned that up and tried again, being ready to close the door quickly, and that time they covered the kennel -- at which point he ate ~3oz of canned food in not very long.

My vet has a theory that maybe he's just getting pickier, particularly since I had to switch the dry food that's down all the time on account of Embla's kidney problems. I mean, I see Baldur eating what looks like plenty, but if he's cut down some, would I really notice? So the new plan is to give him larger quantities of canned food (should be fun keeping Embla away...) and see what that does. (He's 17; how bad can it be if he becomes addicted to the fattening more-expensive stuff?)