daf bit: Eruvin 6
Mar. 14th, 2013 09:03 amThis week we begin a new tractate, Eruvin. On Shabbat one is not
permitted to carry items from a private domain (like a house) into
a public domain (like the street) or vice versa. However, this
doesn't apply to houses around a central (fenced or walled) courtyard,
an architectural style common in ancient Israel; this can be viewed as
one big private domain even though it's multi-dwelling. (There are
rules, like the people living there actually need to share food on
Shabbat.) Applying similar principles, a larger space, like a town, can
be enclosed by an eiruv and thus treated as a private domain.
The first several pages of this tractate discuss alleys. An alley is not like a courtyard because it's open at both ends (it's a thoroughfare). The rabbis discuss the effects of walls, posts, doorways, and openings below a certain width. On today's daf we learn that it was taught in the name of R. Yochanan that Jerusalem, a walled city with a central road running through the center, would have been treated as a public domain because of the road, were it not for the fact that its gates were closed at night, rendering it like a courtyard. 'Ulla, too, said the same of the city of Mahuza, which also had gates that were closed at night. But Beit Hillel said you don't need to close the doors; they just need to be present.(6b)
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Date: 2013-03-15 09:27 pm (UTC)The Roomba is muktzeh, and if you forget to turn it off you just have to wait for it to wear its little
heartbattery out. Or, if it should wander into a closet or something, I think you would be permitted to then close the door.(no subject)
Date: 2013-03-15 10:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2013-03-15 10:16 pm (UTC)Figured a Roomba would be muktzeh. A pre-programmedf coffee maker would be too, although it seems valid to accept and use the product it delivers should the intent be general rather than setting it up so it specifically does its work on Shabbat
Most of the debates seem to be about determining the intent of the law rather than how to subvert the letter of the law. The latter is necessary chaos, but the use of it for the former is a good thing. That resonates nicely with who I want to be.