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Dear LJ Brain Trust,

A member of our minyan has a degenerative vision problem and can no longer use even a very-large-print prayer book. (She was absent for a while and returned this week with a guide dog.) She realized that she didn't know as many of the prayers by heart as she thought she did, so I'm spending some time with her to teach her by ear and we'll scare up some recordings for her, but memorization isn't really the ideal solution. Sure, people can and do memorize the core, common prayers, but it's hard to memorize everything, and sometimes there are seasonal changes, so you really want to be able to read the prayer book.

I once saw somebody who used a Braille prayer book, but at the time I didn't ask him how that worked and he's since passed away. Braille is, as I understand it, a letter-by-letter notation system with an extra layer (called "condensed", I've heard) where common words have their own symbols instead of being spelled out. (Like American Sign Language, except I have the impression that the balance between spelled-out and condensed is different. I may be wrong about that.) But -- all of that kind of assumes a particular alphabet, right? So how would Hebrew be rendered in Braille -- do they transliterate it and then Braille-encode that, or does the reader have to learn a different Braille language to match the different alphabet, or what?

I'd like to be able to help her get a prayer book she can read. I don't think she's ready to learn a second Braille language (she's still working on the first).

And a related question: she has an iPad; are there Braille peripherals for that like (I understand) there are for desktop computers? Is "digital copy of the book + iPad + peripheral" a practical alternative to the massive paper tome? (She would use technology on Shabbat for that purpose.)

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Date: 2014-09-07 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talvinm.livejournal.com
I am roping in the resident expert. Expect reply soonish. :)

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Date: 2014-09-07 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talvinm.livejournal.com
Related: while I do not know if this app is Voiceover-Compatible, it would be worth the 99 cents to find out, perhaps?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shabbos-clock/id302172998?mt=8

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Date: 2014-09-07 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannaamarich.livejournal.com
I just found out that VoiceOver does not support Hebrew at this time. That surprised me! I thought for sure it would. Don't despair yet, remember IOS 8 is coming out and who knows if it'll be supported then or not.

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Date: 2014-09-10 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannaamarich.livejournal.com
Yes, it has lots of languages. Several Spanish and French variants. Dutch, German--I think--Chineese, a couple dialects. Other languages that I can't figure out Go into Accessibility, VoiceOver, Language Rotor and you can get an idea of the voices and languages. Oh, forgot to mention the various English ones. American, Australian, British, Irish, South African ...

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Date: 2014-09-10 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannaamarich.livejournal.com
IOS8 comes out on the 17Th. As soon as I am able to move up to it, I will see if Hebrew is added.

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Date: 2014-09-11 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talvinm.livejournal.com
There is a lot of unofficial buzz out there that iOS 8 will support Hebrew/Voiceover. That said, we won't know for sure until it goes public.

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Date: 2014-09-07 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannaamarich.livejournal.com
I am trying to find out how well Apple supports Hebrew in VoiceOver. I've asked some blind friends of mine who should be able to tell me. Then I will see what other solutions I can help you find. I am looking at a English-to-Hebrew or Hebrew-to-English translation app to see how accessible that is. It's difficult for me to tell.

That said, while she will need to learn another code, this link:

http://www.jbilibrary.org/BrailleLibrary/

has books that have been put into Hebrew Braille. They can be embossed with a Braille printer or loaded onto the device and read with a refreshable Braille display.

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Date: 2014-09-07 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannaamarich.livejournal.com
I also wanted to say that, yes, a Braille display hooked up to an iPad is a good idea. It's the best way, once Braille is learned, to keep up during a service.

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Date: 2014-09-09 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talvinm.livejournal.com
http://tech.aph.org/rbd_info.htm

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Date: 2014-09-10 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannaamarich.livejournal.com
Forgot to say that I use my RefreshaBraille with my Mac via USB and my iPad via bluetooth. Works really well. :)

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