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Siderea ([personal profile] siderea) wrote in [personal profile] cellio 2017-07-06 05:15 pm (UTC)

I'm wondering if it's the context of responding to praise. If you are teaching torah in the name of the person who taught you, it's not like someone has first said, "This torah teaching is particularly excellent" and you were responding, "Oh, yes, it's R' Soandso's." If you teach torah and your student comes to the conclusion, "Wow, Monica's teacher, this R' Soandso, is particularly insightful", that's on them.

ETA: Come to think of it, while I'm pretty hard-core in the camp of there being a moral responsibility to give credit, the gross shenanigans I've personally witnessed in SCA order meetings having to do with promoting candidates (miss-attributing the work of others to the candidate, exaggerating the work of the candidate, fawning over their work far in excess of its actual merit, e.g., all of which are ultimately to the detriment of the reputation of the candidate) suggests to me that maybe Rabbi has a point.

There is this behavior I've observed where people try to promote their friends and household members, and do this sort of talking up, which really does do those they do this "favor" harm.

(I'm also thinking of the humiliation a Laurel I knew went through when her work became so promininent it came to the attention of an academic in her field who basically debunked it.)

ETA2: So in other words, maybe Rabbi is just really adamantly against awards campaigning.

Also see "Rumplestiltskin".

All that said, it wouldn't seem (to me, anyway) like "This manuscript is excellent", "Oh, it's not my work. The credit goes to R' Soandso." is an example of campaigning.

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