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In a discussion of the proper placement of the mezuzah, the scroll we place on the doorposts of our houses, the g'mara asks the following question: the torah says "you shall write these words on the doorposts of your house" -- doesn't this mean we should write them directly on the stones of the house? Where does the scroll come from? The g'mara answers that in other places that talk about writing it is onto a scroll or parchment -- a bill of divorce, the sotah's cursed water, and the torah scroll written by a king. On the other hand, the torah also says "write" when talking about the memorial stones that the Israelites will erect (containing the torah text) when they enter the land, and that's stone, so maybe we do write on our houses. No, the g'mara continues, we infer the meaning of "writing" from writing that was intended for all time, not for writing that was in its time only -- the laws of divorce, sotah, and torah scrolls remain, but the stones were for that generation only. But wait, another rabbi says -- you're talking about stones, but the torah says write them on your doorposts; how do we know it doesn't mean literally writing on the doorposts? Because when the torah says "and you shall write them" it means a perfect writing (there's some linguistic manipulation going on here), and any writing on stones or wood would be imperfect. Only a scroll can enable perfect writing. (34a)

If you take a close look at a torah scroll or mezuzah -- or any inked calligraphy on vellum or parchment -- you will see that the ink is actually sitting mainly on top of the surface, unlike with paper -- or wood -- where some of it is absorbed. Finished wood of the right type might not behave that way, but that's probably not what people use to make doorposts. I know more about writing than about wood, so I can't carry this analysis much farther.

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Date: 2018-09-14 09:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elbren
does "because that's the way my grandmother did it" ever show up explicitly as a reason? because i feel like they're talking around saying that out loud, but underneath that's what's happening.

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Date: 2018-09-14 01:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dsrtao
Yes. A minhag is a custom, rather than a law, and will vary from grandmother to grandmother -- or from descending from one place from another.

For example, wearing a hat is considered respectful to the Most High because it was the habit of a particular rabbi; gradually, this became viewed as a requirement for prayer, and in some communities a requirement for leaving the house.

And for centuries, Ashkenazic Jews would not eat kitniyot - rice, lentils and legumes - during Passover, while Sephardic Jews would. Tradition!

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Date: 2018-09-16 03:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] magid
Actually, there's a lot of information in Biblical and early halachic (gemara, etc) sources on head covering. It's not just one rabbi with a hat. (I went to a short course on headcovering in Judaism.)

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