Agreed. Their actions are damaging not only me and a bunch of other moderators, but the *communities* they're supposed to be supporting. They don't even seem to care about doing damage to Stack Overflow, the flagship; the rest of us are just noise. I was stunned when George resigned on SO today, as he'd long seemed to be a company supporter.
The thing about TL is that, until now, vigorous policy discussions and hypotheticals and pedantic examination of proposals was *normal* and *welcome*. Better to have a bunch of engaged pedants beat on it and help refine it before you implement it, right? Sometimes those conversations were vigorous, and sometimes they crossed lines that made me uncomfortable enough to leave, and I do think that needs to be fixed. But with the exception of a few rude comments from just a couple people, the conversation on September 18 didn't cross those lines. It was a vigorous but mostly *respectful* policy discussion.
Except that Sara Chipps didn't want to be part of that, apparently. She wanted to make pronouncements but disengage from the rest, and then brought her wrath down on me. And then she libelled me, more than once. Disgusting.
The score on David's "apology" post was close to 600 at one point; now it's below 200 and continuing to drop, as time passes without visible progress. Sadly, I don't think anybody at company HQ cares how things are received on meta any more. As with TL, pushback, questioning, and disagreement are interpreted as problem users, not problem content.
Re: Torquemada Lounge
Date: 2019-10-16 01:25 am (UTC)The thing about TL is that, until now, vigorous policy discussions and hypotheticals and pedantic examination of proposals was *normal* and *welcome*. Better to have a bunch of engaged pedants beat on it and help refine it before you implement it, right? Sometimes those conversations were vigorous, and sometimes they crossed lines that made me uncomfortable enough to leave, and I do think that needs to be fixed. But with the exception of a few rude comments from just a couple people, the conversation on September 18 didn't cross those lines. It was a vigorous but mostly *respectful* policy discussion.
Except that Sara Chipps didn't want to be part of that, apparently. She wanted to make pronouncements but disengage from the rest, and then brought her wrath down on me. And then she libelled me, more than once. Disgusting.
The score on David's "apology" post was close to 600 at one point; now it's below 200 and continuing to drop, as time passes without visible progress. Sadly, I don't think anybody at company HQ cares how things are received on meta any more. As with TL, pushback, questioning, and disagreement are interpreted as problem users, not problem content.