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I just posted the following on Meta.SE under the title "Stack Overflow is doing me ongoing harm; it's time to fix it!":


Over the last month, Stack Overflow Inc. has violated its own policies and precedents to cause egregious and unnecessary harm to me -- to my reputation (personal and professional), to my health, and to my safety. This harm is significant and ongoing. It is past time for the company to correct its errors, repair what can be repaired, and move toward a spirit of working with rather than against its users and volunteers.

Whereas:

  1. The company removed me without due process or warning and ignored procedures it already had in place, which an executive admitted to, and did so in the midst of a discussion with a community manager to understand the new Code of Conduct (which was previously unclear); and

  2. A representative of the company violated longstanding privacy policies by immediately (within seconds) announcing my firing to a large audience, denying me the standard privacy afforded to subjects of such discipline; and

  3. A director, speaking for the company, posted on various resignation announcements (example) in a way that maligns my character and violates the Code of Conduct; and

  4. Company representatives violated common corporate practice of not commenting to the media (now codified) by speaking with The Register to further malign my character, paint me as a bigot, and make unsubstantiated claims; and

  5. A company representative made an official post on Meta accusing me of "repeatedly violating our existing Code of Conduct and being unwilling to accept our CM's repeated requests to change that behavior", a claim that has never been substantiated, and featured the post across the network where it was prominent for 77 hours; and

  6. Representatives of the company including executives, a director, and the Community Management team have failed to respond to my repeated requests to be shown these alleged violations and warnings and, more broadly, my requests for discussion to find a mutually-agreeable resolution to the situation; and

  7. Company claims of an urgent need to act before resolving the ongoing discussion, despite my having left the Teachers' Lounge nine days earlier and otherwise behaving normally across the network, have never been substantiated; and

  8. The new reinstatement process is unacceptable in my case because my removal did not follow the paired removal process (or any process), the reinstatement process proceeds from a presumption of a legitimate guilty finding, and I cannot appeal charges that have never been communicated to me; and

  9. The issue I asked about has now been confirmed to comply with the new CoC;

Therefore I call on Stack Overflow Inc. and its individual representatives to:

  1. Retract all of the negative statements about me described above, publicize that retraction to all places where the original claims were made or are known to have spread, and to the best of its ability clear my name; and

  2. Reverse the original decision, restoring me to my position without prejudice. The model here must be akin to declaring a mistrial, not akin to an application for early parole.

Stack Overflow Inc. is a private company and its representatives are free to treat users badly. They can ignore #2 if they do not value fairness, respectfulness, and diversity; that is their right. However, they must address #1, and given the many errors that got us here, they should address #2.

My patience is not infinite; the company has already dragged this out for nearly a month while harm continues to accrue. It is past time for a meaningful response. I remain available to discuss the matter. Please prioritize resolving this ongoing, painful, damaging situation in the very near future.

GO!

Date: 2019-10-24 02:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This.
Exactly.
Keep fighting for Truth and Justice.

They claim that some fuzzy gendering language is harmful.

Then they libel you in public and in speaking to journalist?

It was "Be Nice". SE destroyed all trust in their attempt to destroy you (and I don't think I am overstating things since it is defame, then go "no comment" letting you twist in the wind.

Spiritual strength.

Date: 2019-10-24 03:14 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You remind me of my Mother. She had a career in the 1950's before even "equal pay" and was the smartest person in the room. I don't know how she tolerated it so long (but am glad a straw broke the camel's back so I'm here). So many stories I can't go into here.

I don't know your maritial status, but you are more valuable than rubys. Showing the fortitude, temperance, patience, in the cause of justice.

I'm non an employer but I would hire you in a minute - I don't even know what for, but someone so fierce in defense of the right can only be an asset.

Have you considered a crowdfunding site (maybe to do the legal part)? There are so few warrior spirits for the truth.

Re: Spiritual strength.

Date: 2019-10-24 09:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] madfilkentist
If someone starts a satisfactory crowdfunding campaign on your behalf, please let people know here. I'd be willing to provide support, but I'd have to know that the campaign exists and that you consider it legitimate.

Crowdfunding, and who is the hater?

Date: 2019-10-25 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Feel free to post this but this is more of a DM

You mentioned something in a comment on your post at SE that you would want any funding overage to go to charity - but specifically mentioned a "lavender" charity. I think you are trying to help but making the same error as the pronoun policy - first, it acts as an admission of guilt (I need to make repairations - watch the mob swarm on this), second, which "lavender" charity? Maybe something like this one: https://www.facebook.com/gaysguns ? I'd recommend something more neutral like a Children's hospital, or STEM scholarship. Third, even if not an admission, it has the condescending air of "oh, you poor lavender people, let me help".

If we weren't in a war of feelings and weaponized words the kind of charity would not be a problem either way. Instead it just causes people to assume some alterior motive behind the most reasonable act. Welcome to the culture wars.

The other thing is simple justice. If a Lavender moderator was fired in a similar unclear manner and then libeled, those who did it would have already lost their jobs. SE's actions speak far louder than any procedure document they can write. Your case is well beyond violating "Be Nice" and "Assume good intent". Your case is negative, but the flip side would be if there was a truly bigoted transphobic post they refused to remove for over a month with only some comments "we've contacted the person and hope to work on a solution" but it remains up. You remain removed and the libels unrecanted.

Every day that you don't get justice - have an apology, retraction, and reinstatement shows SE is engaging in irrational hatred with actual harm toward you and that is the essence of bigotry. It might be a "magnificent" (Augustine: "Pagan virtues are magnificent vices") bigotry, but it is still bigotry.

(no subject)

Date: 2019-10-24 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Your post on MSE has been only intermittently visible for the past hour. If I have the post open in my browser and refresh it, it does refresh correctly. But if I go to https://meta.stackexchange.com/ and refresh, sometimes it can't be seen at all in the list of questions. Then a minute later it may reappear, only to disappear again. I think someone is trying to hide it.

Please be careful

Date: 2019-10-24 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Monica,
How SE has been treating you has been appalling, to say the least.
I'm sure you know this already, but if you plan to sue, please be careful of what you put in writing, anywhere. That includes chat, messaging, even things you delete. All that stuff is fair game in litigation, and corporate lawyers are very good of twisting innocent phrases and taking them out of context.
Your latest post summed up your points perfectly. Nothing further needs to be said. You need to talk to a lawyer now.
Don't bother about getting your diamond back. SE no longer cares about the community. They're looking to sell the company before the tech bubble bursts.
Best of luck to you.

Eclipse of Reason.

Date: 2019-10-26 01:09 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilliput_and_Blefuscu

Most of the problem - after seeing your totally rational exchange - seems to be that Gulliver ended up washing up on the Lavender Lilliput instead of Blefuscu.

Can we not agree to open our eggs however we wish?

I think it could and would have been resolved with respect and tolerance, except someone in power decided to destroy one side.

(no subject)

Date: 2019-10-26 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] a_i_breveleri
This is a "demand letter". A demand letter must set time limits. Without a time limit, as long as SE does not respond to this communication, you cannot say they have rejected the demands.

One of the difficulties with a demand letter is that the respondent can later attempt to claim that you said you would be satisfied with the demands in the letter. This can prevent you from asking for more. In order to counter this, you need to show that the letter was rejected.

In this case, you have demanded a retraction and a publication of the retraction. You have not demanded monetary compensation for current or future damages to your career. Should you eventually ask a court to order such compensation, SE could argue that it should merely satisfy the demands in this letter, which would still be on offer. You would be in the position of filing a lawsuit while in the midst of negotiations, which shows bad faith and vexatious litigation.

You must resubmit these demands to SE, but with a reasonable time limit -- say, "30 days from receipt of this letter" -- instead of the accommodating "in the very near future". Then send it via registered mail to SE corporate offices. (The 30 days would start from the date of the SE agent signature on the receipt.)

View of an outsider

Date: 2019-11-14 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So far I have been a pure reader at SE without an account -- most of my questions were already answered. In my eyes the actions of the company against you harmed their own reputation, I noticed almost no one supporting their decision. So I hope the harm to you can fade soon.

It worries me a lot that they seem to have harmed those people most that they claimed to welcome. How many people will read about this situation and just be confirmed in their perception that trans means trouble? In a time when parliaments pass toilet laws to make the life of trans people worse, it pains me to see that there are people who believe they are fighting the good fight by fighting not the real opponents but rather their former allies for only agreeing 99% with them.

I wish you the best! --David

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