today's news
Aug. 2nd, 2023 02:13 pmThe person who murdered my friends at Tree of Life has just been sentenced to death. There will presumably be years of appeals, but it still feels like there's some closure. I mean, as much as there can be when people we cared about are gone and obviously aren't coming back.
I have complicated feelings about the death penalty. In this case I found the defense's arguments wholly unconvincing. We're supposed to believe that someone who spent months planning an attack, who talked coherently about it on social media, who carried it out methodically, and who showed no remorse -- should get a pass because he had a difficult childhood? Lots of people have difficult childhoods but don't turn into bigoted murderers, y'know? I'm no expert, but it seems to me that he was clearly capable of forming intent, and did. I guess the defense made the best arguments they could; they just didn't have much to work with.
I've noticed that the local Jewish newspaper does not use his name, and neither shall I. We don't need to give him word-fame and help make him a martyr. He's a nobody, a murderous nobody -- Ploni.
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Date: 2023-08-02 09:18 pm (UTC)When the news was on and they were about to utter the name, I turned off the radio. The Haman rules; we know the name as a caution. We crush it out, and we shout the deeds of the ones who were stolen.
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Date: 2023-08-02 09:31 pm (UTC)Yes, exactly. Maybe not Ploni but rather Amalek.
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Date: 2023-08-02 09:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-02 10:49 pm (UTC)I can't really fathom how someone can do this, despite the fact that there are those who clearly have. And yes, a hard childhood is no excuse for actions at this level.
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Date: 2023-08-02 10:56 pm (UTC)Second, the current implementation of the death penalty maximizes cruelty while minimizing effectiveness as a deterrent or punishment. People who are sentenced to death inevitably go through years of appeals and are executed, commuted, or freed years later. This does little to convince people that if they commit murder, they'll die.
While I'm not Jewish, I think this excerpt from the New York Times is appropriate to quote:
Nothing takes away the pain of knowing good people who were brutally murdered. Not even the death of the murderer.
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Date: 2023-08-03 01:17 am (UTC)I know that Beth and Ron both opposed the death penalty for this י"ש, and I know them both from when they were in MN. Beth was an instructor for my Melton cohort.
But I also know that the jury decides. Not those present for the crime and not remote observers with tenuous connections like me.
The jury did what it did, and now that's done. I will neither celebrate nor mourn it, but just trust the process.
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Date: 2023-08-03 01:35 am (UTC)I share those concerns and add a third: in the US, there are disparities in how cases are judged depending on economic and other factors. The US system isn't fair enough to be making life-and-death decisions.
And yet...here we have someone who admitted it, bragged about it even. There is no question of guilt; the defense conceded that. I don't know why we even had a trial, why the prosecution insisted on pushing for the death penalty instead of accepting a plea for life in prison. Maybe life in prison isn't reliable either? I don't know. But given that we had a trial for someone who is obviously guilty of premeditated mass murder, I can't object to the death penalty either. But it does make me uncomfortable. As I said, complicated feelings.
If we were operating under rabbinic rules with their strict standards of evidence and testimony and intent, that would be a very different conversation.
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Date: 2023-08-03 01:38 am (UTC)Yeah. I'm not celebrating and I'm not mourning. It's a milestone of sorts for what has been a very rough several years and I note it.
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Date: 2023-08-03 01:38 am (UTC)Thank you. Virtual hugs will have to do.
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Date: 2023-08-03 01:39 am (UTC)It's hard to understand how someone can do something like that, yes. Sadly, events beyond our ability to understand still happen to us. :-(
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Date: 2023-08-03 11:35 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-03 12:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2023-08-03 01:46 pm (UTC)The system failed us long before it even got to sentencing. It's been almost five years. He not only admitted it but bragged about it, before and after. Why wasn't he in front of a jury the next month and rotting in a cell in obscurity the month after that? It's so frustrating that this got dragged out, with pain and lack of any resolution, for years and years. I wonder if the people pushing for the death penalty would have done so if this clear case of unrepentant guilt could have been resolved promptly. We don't drop people in oubliettes any more, but a prison in the middle of nowhere that's too much trouble for journalists to get to for interviews would probably do as well.
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Date: 2023-08-03 01:47 pm (UTC)Thank you. It's frustrating that this wasn't resolved years ago and has dragged on (and will continue to drag on). A judicial system should give people the time they need to prepare cases, of course -- I'm not suggesting hair-trigger responses -- but it shouldn't delay long past the point of utility.
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Date: 2023-08-07 10:15 pm (UTC)And belated hugs.